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  #1

  TC
  November 30th, 2009 18:00

  A few stats
  Age 6-10 19/19
  Age 6-9 13/13
  <11′3 12/12
  OR over 125 19/19
  All had 40%+ top3 in chases
  LTO top 5 19/19, LTO top 4 18/19
  1-2 season runs 19/19
  Won at 24f+ 19/19
  20-46 days since last run 19/19 30-30 16/19
  5 chases+ 18/19

  Will weight till 8th Dec to ake a decision, there is a key race at Chepstow this weekend and a think a lot of winners had previously run and had a decent record at Chepstow

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  #2

  Pablo
  November 30th, 2009 18:18

  The Rehearsal Chase used to be a key trial when it was run at Chepstow (now run at Newcastle & won last Saturday by Beat The Boys).

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  #3

  The Stayer
  December 1st, 2009 10:43

  After a quick glance through the runners and the stats I like the look of the following, though I do have concerns about some:

  COE
  MORGAN BE
  NICHE MARKET – Hard race in Hennessy?
  FLINTOFF – Lack of a prep run?
  COMPANERO – Lack of experience?
  HENNESSY – Ground?

  Willie Mullins has a load entered so probably best not touch his until closer to the time.

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  #4

  The Stayer
  December 2nd, 2009 10:03

  Just seen Tim Vaughn’s stable tour on the RP site. He says that FLINTOFF is one of the horses he is looking forward to running and the Welsh National is on the agenda. However, he said that he wanted to run him in a hurdle race at Chepstow as a pipe-opener this weekend but the horse has not been entered. That’s a bit of a worry as they’re running out of time to get a run into him.

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  #5

  Ben Aitken
  December 6th, 2009 21:26

  COMPANERO is a horse I really like but as stayer mentions his lack of experience is a slight concern. On the other hand it may well be that he is ahead of the handicapper…..

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  #6

  TC
  December 9th, 2009 23:46

  stats point to 9 runners unless there are anymore to rule them out

  money trix
  miko de beauchene
  beroni
  niche market
  turpin green
  le beau bai
  coe
  Kilbeggan blade
  Irish Raptor

  if mon mome pulls out, MT and MdB might be slightly high in the weights

  Still too early to call but at the moment my 4 would be
  coe
  le beau bai
  kilbeggan blade
  turpin green

  i think money trix and niche market are likely non runners

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  #7

  Neil S
  December 10th, 2009 00:01

  I dont think Niche Market would turn up too. Could be wrong but I think this might have been just in case his Hennessy race went wrong. Also might push his OR even higher.

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  #8

  crisp 73
  December 10th, 2009 21:05

  TC, thanks for all info so far. Only just started to collate info. I make it 10/10 have won/placed in C1 chase 25f or more. Know this obviously only goes back 10 years – rather than some longer trends you’ve posted – but the race does seem classier now than when, say, Kendal Cavalier won in 98. What do you reckon?

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  #9

  TC
  December 11th, 2009 08:50

  i think that stat would point out COE as the best bet so far, will definitely handle the soft and confirmed stayer who put in a nice run in the rehearsal chase

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  #10

  Neil S
  December 13th, 2009 19:20

  Been studying some stat for the Welsh National. Stat one (source Wikipedia) no horse older than ten or younger than six have won since 1976. Stat two (same source) since 1997 (the latest unbroken stretch) four winners carried ten stone nine to eleven stone three, while twice that number (eight) carried ten stone to ten stone five. The nature of the going might explain this stat. Stat three (source TC) no horse with an official rating of lower than hundred and twenty five has won. I’ve no need to dispute that fact its sounds okay to me. Stat four (source Racing Post TV) because of the “quirky nature” of the course you need an animal who can act on it. In other words it sounds like “horses for courses” to me. The following meet these stats: Le Beau Bai, Oscar Bay, Shardakhan, Sound Accord, Chiaro, Theatre Dance, Jaunty Journey, Bob Bob Bobbin. Lastly using the Dosage figures recommended by Ben I got it down to Le Beau Bai, Oscar Bay & Jaunty Journey.

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  #11

  Neil S
  December 13th, 2009 19:43

  Looking at the Ante Post prices (source Ladbrokes) Le Beau Bai is 7/1 favourite, Oscar Bay is 40/1 and Jaunty Journey is 20/1. Sounds like some good bets.

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  #12

  TC
  December 13th, 2009 20:01

  I think LBB is probably a rightful favourite – but just how good was the opposition he faced last week? Now has a 9lb rise as well.
  10/10 have placed in a class 1 is a pretty important start that LBB will have to overcome.
  The only negative against COE, is the fact he’s never run at Chepstow – but isn’t Haydock somewhat similar? He’ll relish the test of Stamina on the softer going.
  Think i’ll have a saver on Turpin Green who looked like he was coming back to his old form

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  #13

  Neil S
  December 13th, 2009 20:55

  Not sure about Haydock, when I went to the venue it looked a fair easy course, Carlisle is said by the racing post reviewers to be similar in nature.

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  #14

  Neil S
  December 13th, 2009 21:46

  Correction to price of Jaunty Journey he is 33/1 not 20/1 got him mixed up with Jaunty Flight.

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  #15

  TC
  December 16th, 2009 20:35

  entries now down to 59, quite happy to have an AP bet on Coe still, dont think he’ll run saturday at Haydock as Trevor Hemmings has another horse entered

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  #16

  Ben Aitken
  December 16th, 2009 21:25

  I would not class HAYDOCK and CHEPSTOW as similar. If any thing Cheltenham & Chepstow are similar in nature – both galloping, undulating & testing with uphill finishes.

  COE seems to be a horse that performs better the further he goes. Not sure if a track such as Chepstow will suit however. Will like the likely soft conditions and galloping track but may not like the undulations. Has run twice at Cheltenham and has a fall and a well beaten 12th to his name.

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  #17

  Ben Aitken
  December 16th, 2009 21:46

  Ground may be against OSCAR BAY. 4 of his 5 wins have come on good or better with the other on good to soft (I am of course assuming ground will be at least soft at CHEPSTOW)

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  #18

  Neil S
  December 16th, 2009 22:52

  Jaunty Flight has 2 entries on Saturday. 2.20 Haydock or 3.10 Ascot. Won at Carlisle 3 miles 1 furlong on Heavy and is drifting now 40/1.

  On Saturday he’s travelling over 2 1/2 miles, goes well fresh and won 6 out of 7 times at that distance. Highly recommended.
  Also could be value in the welsh National.

  I don’t think it has a National entry though.

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  #19

  Neil S
  December 16th, 2009 22:53

  That is drifting for Welsh National (could be EW value there).

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  #20

  Neil S
  December 16th, 2009 22:55

  Sorry, he’s still 33/1 but still ew value.

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  #21

  The Stayer
  December 17th, 2009 09:35

  With regards Coe, I really like him for this but Trevor Hemmings loves having runners at Haydock and the horse could run there. That would be a massive negative so i’m going to hold off with my bet until the decs are out for Saturday.

  His Cheltenham form doesn’t worry me. 12th in a Grade 1 hurdle race at 66/1 was probably a fair reflection of his chance and even horses like Our Vic or Kauto Star fall at Cheltenham, it happens.

  I also heard that Carlisle is a similar track to Chepstow. Coe has run twice there finishing 4/10 in a bumper and 4/11 in a 2m4f novice chase about a year ago. 2m4f is probably on the sharp side for him so that’s probably a fair enough effort.

  Whilst you can’t rave about his Cheltenham or Carlisle form it doesn’t put me off either.

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  #22

  TC
  December 17th, 2009 17:32

  Hope Coe goes for this – is he next runner to show the form of that 4 miler at Cheltenham? he was just beginning to feel the pinch before he fell but was still staying on under pressure, before that he had jumped pretty well and would probably have claimed 5-6th. If Cheltenham is somewhat similar (is Newcastle) to Chepstow it should be a positive and a slightly shorter trip should suit

  That race has already produced an IN winner and a betfred winner. Coe would have finished comfortably clear of NM, Le Beau Bai who was also in that race pulled up a long time before coe fell, LBB also carries 4lb more than Coe and doesnt have any form in top company yet.

  Lets hope the Vicar runs Saturday at Haydock!

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  #23

  crisp 73
  December 18th, 2009 09:19

  Looking at the last fifteen runnings the stats/trends, as I see them, appear to form in to two camps- horses who have performed well in the Welsh National before (Riverside Boy 2nd, Earth Summit 2nd, Bindaree 3rd, L’Aventure 4th) and those winning at their first attempt.

  For instance,
  13/15 had ran in less than 20 chases- Earth Summit,Bindaree being the exceptions;
  13/15 had a 50% or more win/place chase s/r – Riverside Boy,Bindaree didn’t;
  13/15 had a 20% or more win chase s/r – Riverside Boy, L’Aventure didn’t;
  12/15 had won 1 of their last 6 chases – Earth Summit, Bindaree, L’Aventure hadn’t.

  Other stats that interest me are that I make it that 14/15 had won/placed in a C1 chase (Kendal Cavalier didn’t, he had won at Chepstow and over a distance further than Welsh Nat)
  14/15 had won 2 or more chases (Miko De Beauchene hadn’t but he’d only ran in 4 chases)

  Does anyone have any RPR>OR stats of recent Welsh Nat. winners?

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  #24

  The Stayer
  December 18th, 2009 11:49

  Coe not declared for Haydock tomorrow. Roll on Chepstow.

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  #25

  crisp 73
  December 19th, 2009 14:15

  I like Gone To Lunch (perfect stats) Our Monty (will he run?),Le Beau Bai(no C1 win/place but has won 29f left handed)and Kornati Kid(only just misses last time out 5th or better with a 6th but that was the Hennessy) at the moment.
  For me a negative for Coe is his win s/r and the fact he’s won only one chase.

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  #26

  TC
  December 19th, 2009 15:43

  Not sure how i’ve overlooked GTL, must have assumed Mon Mome was unlikely to run, giving GTL too much weight.

  Still like Coe, the win s/r, isnt too big an issue for me as he’s come 2nd in top company twice. He ran well at Cheltenham – on that evidence i would have him comfortably clear of LBB

  The stats that you’ve put up though, will make sure i have a saver on Turpin Green

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  #27

  Pablo
  December 19th, 2009 22:39

  For me a key stat is that of, the past winners since 1997 (race wasn’t run for a couple of years before), the only one not to have run over 30f+ (placed or unplaced) before he won is Edmond (who won over 27f and won his 3 previous runs before he won Welsh National)

  To me this shows that the trainer BELIEVES the horse has stamina and so has tried him at a long distance

  The fences themselves are not the most challenging and the track is undulating but has a long straight (unlike Cheltenham) and the going is invariably testing (so any performance at Haydock on soft or worse is useful, as of course is course form – especially when the Rehearsal Chase was run at Chepstow, now Newcastle)

  Ability to stay and handle soft ground are imperative – course form a bonus, but not as crucial as in years gone by

  Therefore any young horse (6 or 7 year olds since 2004) with those credentials (especially French bred – past four winners) is favoured by me

  The only exceptions might be Irish horses where 24f on heavy Irish ground is very testing compared with anything over here in the UK

  As ever more questions than answers!

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  #28

  Pablo
  December 19th, 2009 22:45

  Edmond had also won at the course twice already

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  #29

  Pablo
  December 19th, 2009 22:46

  … on Soft ground

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  #30

  TC
  December 19th, 2009 22:58

  Found this of racecaller.co.uk, I find the top stat of most interest, if yor interested in Coe as i’m pretty sure he would have finshed in the first 6 of the 4m NH chase

  7 of 10 winners had finished in the first 6 in either the Welsh/Scottish/Irish/Aintree/Midlands Grand Nationals or the 4M NH Chase at Cheltenham earlier that year (2 of 3 exceptions fell in one of these races when in contention)

  6 of 10 winners had previously won at Chepstow (4 exceptions were having their first course start)

  7 of 10 winners (last 5) had run in 6 or fewer handicap chases

  9 of 10 winners had finished in the first 3 in a graded chase (exception had yet to run in a graded chase but won the valuable Becher Chase on last run)

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  #31

  Pablo
  December 19th, 2009 23:15

  Horse – best RPR at this track

  Earth Summit – Haydock
  Kendal Cavalier – Cheltenham
  Edmond – Towcester
  Jocks Cross – Towcester
  Supreme Glory – Stratford
  Mini Sensation – Bangor
  Bindaree – Chepstow
  Silver Birch – Wincanton
  L’Aventure – Chepstow
  Halcon Genelardais – Warwick
  Miko de Beauchene – Wetherby
  Notre Pere – Navan

  Right-handed, left-handed undulating or not

  Class (or signs of), stay, handle soft, unexposed

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  #32

  Matriarch
  December 20th, 2009 09:14

  Surely then, based on the above stats etc Northern Alliance should be well in the frame??? I’ve backed him and Coe.

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  #33

  Matriarch
  December 20th, 2009 10:01

  I meant Dream Alliance but checked again and not so sure now!

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  #34

  Pablo
  December 22nd, 2009 12:43

  33 left in Welsh (in market order from oddschecker)

  Le Beau Bai
  The Tother One
  Halcon Genelardais
  Flintoff
  Companero
  Silver By Nature
  Gone To Lunch
  Operation Houdini
  Old Benny
  Coe
  Kornati Kid
  Hello Bud
  Dream Alliance
  LAventure
  Merigo
  Nozic
  Ballyfitz
  Iris de Balme
  Mon Mome
  Turpin Green
  Mr Strachan
  Miko De Beauchene
  Gentle Ranger
  Kilbeggan Blade
  Oscar Bay
  Never So Blue
  Oscar Park
  Cornish Sett
  Sound Accord
  Rate Of Knots
  Supreme Keano
  Teeming Rain
  Zacharova

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  #35

  Gammers
  December 22nd, 2009 15:30

  Interestingly none of the 33 remaining entries meet 100% of the stats profile I usually use for the Welsh National.

  The closest is Le Beau Bai who meets all except for minimum TS of 127 (with a best rating of 119).

  Four against the field, with reservations in brackets:

  Le Beau Bai (TS rating)
  Old Benny (RPR rating)
  Coe (RPR and TS ratings)
  Gone to Lunch (10lbs below best RPR)

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  #36

  Showlad
  December 24th, 2009 22:32

  Hi All Showlad here. As you know I lost my wonderful Dad of whom I used to come on this site on behalf of (as well as myself). Been missing in action as late summer my wonderful Mum passed away too. But am reporting back for action now – SIR!!
  I will be commencing the TOP 6 TIPSTER COMPETITION I ran for the last National. 3 phases: 1 – up to and including 31 December to see how close we were before the year turned and assess our collective fancies. 2 – post Cheltenham and 3 – at final declaration stage.
  Usual system 6 points for your top tip down to 1 point for horse you tip to come in 6th. You post up your top 6 and then amend and add in your scores to rolling league table for the fancied.
  Anyone fine to kick off now, but I imagine, like me, you’ll be waiting to see the outcome of the Welsh National.
  I’d like to wish all a very Merry Christmas and look forward to an amazing run up to the Grand National 2010: Systemsman, Stayer, Pablo, TC, KJ, Thai Mark, Wacky, Miinnehoma, Maureen, Crisp 73, Neil S, Silver Birch, Gammer – indeed ALL who contribute here.
  Let’s hope we do better than last year guys – sorry to remind you all but Mon Mome DIDN’T GET A SINGLE POINT IN LAST YEAR’S FINAL TABLE – OOPS!!

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  #37

  Showlad
  December 26th, 2009 13:05

  Welsh going is Soft and Heavy in places. If she’s in the mood the back in form LaVenture is a superb each way bet and could easily reclaim her crown from 4 years ago. Loves the distance, loves the course, loves the going.
  Le Beau Bai to me I feel will find the full length of the race just a bit too challenging working in all other factors.

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  #38

  Showlad
  December 27th, 2009 11:07

  20 FINAL DECS:

  2781-P3 Mon Mome (FR) 16 9 11-12 Miss V Williams L Treadwell 160 SP SP
  33/1
  2 2/232P-4 Halcon Genelardais (FR) 37 9 11-9 A King W Hutchinson 157 SP SP
  10/1
  3 33/1F-22 The Tother One (IRE) 17 8 11-4 P F Nicholls A P McCoy 158 SP SP
  11/2
  4 U1P00-6 Nozic (FR) 30 8 11-4 t P F Nicholls Harry Skelton (3) 152 SP SP
  20/1
  5 1P2-285 Gone To Lunch (IRE) 30 9 11-1 J Scott S E Durack 149 SP SP
  14/1
  6 U3F-FP4 Miko de Beauchene (FR) 22 9 11-1 Miss V Williams A Coleman 149 SP SP
  25/1
  7 24116-6 Kornati Kid 30 7 10-11 P J Hobbs R Johnson 145 SP SP
  16/1
  8 22P-4P1 Ballyfitz 23 9 10-10 N A Twiston-Davies P J Brennan 146 SP SP
  25/1
  9 11P1-71 Le Beau Bai (FR) (ex4) 23 6 10-9 R Lee Mr O Greenall (3) 148 SP SP
  4/1
  10 P11-735 Hello Bud (IRE) 36 11 10-8 t N A Twiston-Davies Mr S Twiston-davies (7) 142 SP SP
  20/1
  11 2PUPP/2 Dream Alliance 54 8 10-8 p1 P J Hobbs T J O’Brien 142 SP SP
  20/1
  12 P31314/ Iris De Balme (FR) 611 9 10-7 S Curran A Freeman (7) 141 SP SP
  33/1
  13 1280-PP Cornish Sett (IRE) 17 10 10-7 b P F Nicholls Nick Scholfield 141 SP SP
  50/1
  14 2P63/52- Flintoff (USA) 289 8 10-6 b Tim Vaughan T Scudamore 140 SP SP
  12/1
  15 9411U1 Operation Houdini (IRE) 23 7 10-5 p D E Fitzgerald S W Flanagan (3) 139 SP SP
  14/1
  16 12F9-22 Coe (IRE) 30 7 10-5 Mrs S J Smith R McGrath 139 SP SP
  14/1
  17 12P6-53 Kilbeggan Blade 23 10 10-4 p1 T R George S Thomas 137 SP SP
  33/1
  18 13FU-51 Silver By Nature 57 7 10-2 Miss Lucinda V Russell P Buchanan 136 SP SP
  10/1
  19 32214/9 Old Benny 31 8 10-0 b A King Charlie Huxley (3) 134 SP SP
  14/1
  20 51P-U0P Zacharova (IRE) 17 6 10-0 Miss V Williams 130 SP SP
  50/1

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  #39

  Neil S
  December 27th, 2009 11:37

  I see Iris De Balme is running, my biggest price winner to date, probably ever (scottish national 08). Not be out since Bet 365 of two season ago. I did report that he’ll be out in December but probably needs the run.

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  #40

  Neil S
  December 27th, 2009 11:41

  Showlad you’ve put SP twice against each horse, is this just an error or does the first SP mean something different to starting price.

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  #41

  Showlad
  December 27th, 2009 12:04

  Hi Neil. SP SP and odds are just columns copied over. Iris De Balm was my Dad’s big 2k winner. Totally strange one – she could either be PU or run a blinder. Gutted Laventure didn’t make cut – she’d love the going and is in cracking form.
  Hello Bud and GTL gotta be in this mix (if really going for it). Off form Cornish is a good EW gamble if form reignites. This is gonna be a sludge stamina test.

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  #42

  SILVER BIRCH
  December 27th, 2009 14:02

  Tips for tomorrows lads and lasses , lets keep our fingers crossed it goes ahead. looks like as usual its gonna b a complete slogathon .. looking at all the stats looks like best to look at the lightweights who we know will stay all day and can go in the mud…

  3 ew selections at decent prices

  COE
  OPERATION HOUDINI
  HELLO BUD

  Good Luck all..!

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  #43

  Neil S
  December 27th, 2009 17:59

  Stats for me point to Le Beau Bai however he’s not won in class one company so Halcon Genelardais has been here twice and knows what to do. He must be mine selection.

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  #44

  kj
  December 27th, 2009 20:13

  looking forward to our chepstow hills christmas present tmw! what a beautiful course. WN looks really tight, but I’m joining the Coe brigade here, just think he’s on the up, not sure he’ll like the course but hey, so lets pick another. Things so close., I would like to pick out one using lucky patterns but latest, double letters next to each other, as in heLLo bud, dream aLLiance, old beNNy and ole cornish seTT has been both good, ok and then disastorous, might just stick to KK for christmas leftovers!

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  #45

  kj
  December 27th, 2009 22:44

  Le BB looks a worthy favourite, after further study, his course form is good, likes the going and has a good weight. Others have past form at the course and with several with real claims I’m only going to have a fun bet on this, oh! its gonna be a thriller! hope it goes ahead, hope they all come back safe, good luck all

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  #46

  Speedyseagull
  December 27th, 2009 23:42

  Hello guys

  I think the top 2 in the market are worthy favourites and hard to split. If anything, I think The Tother One’s inexperience will count against him. Can see him running on in the mud but leaving too much to do.

  However, my main bet has been placed e/w on GONE TO LUNCH. 16/1 is cracking value in my opinion. Has stayed on well in last 2 races and this distance will suit. Never raced on heavy ground but done well on soft. A lor will depend on his jumping which can be patchy

  Disappointed to see Casey Jones not entered…

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  #47

  Neil S
  December 28th, 2009 00:57

  CJ off till Feb (see main thread on why!)

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  #48

  Neil S
  December 28th, 2009 01:00

  The article I posted on Christmas Eve.

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  #49

  mandie
  December 28th, 2009 09:17

  fancy flintoff e/w.

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  #50

  crisp 73
  December 28th, 2009 09:46

  A third inspection at 10.30.
  If it goes ahead Le Beau Bai and Gone To Lunch are the picks on the stats I’m using followed by Kornati Kid and Nozic. A big negative for me concerning Coe is that he has an 11% win strike rate (only Riverside Boy,18%, and L’Aventure,16%, had a win s/r less than 20% in last 15 runnings and they’d already had a top4 Welsh Nat finish)and the fact he’s only won 1 chase( 12/15 had won 3 or more, 14/15 had won 2 or more, Miko De Beauchene only won 1 chase but he’d only ran in 4).

  I make it that 13/33, 8/20 GN winners ran on the Welsh Nat.
  (*same season)
  *Rag Trade- 1st, Rubstic- pulled up, *Corbiere-1st, West Tip- unplaced, *Rhyme N Reason- 2nd, Little Polveir- unplaced, *Party Politics- 2nd, Miinnehoma- 3rd, *Earth Summit- 1st, *Bindaree- 3rd, Hedgehunter- 3rd, Silver Birch- 1st, Mon Mome- 2nd.

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  #51

  Neil S
  December 28th, 2009 10:20

  Thanks for confirming my stats crisp (see grand national tips 2010 [2] ) I thought that generally this is the most important trial race ran before Main event in april. However I still think this season that honour will go to the Hennessy.

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  #52

  TC
  December 28th, 2009 11:38

  My main bet on the race is Coe, but i’ve got savers on GTL. Also MdB only just misses out on the stats.

  Just trying to assess the race without the trends. Coe and KK should have the better of LBB based on the Cheltenham 4-miler, the race before MdB at Haydock finished just behind Coe and should be better off on the weights this time around. Based on the hennessy GTL should comfortably have the beating of KK. Having said all that HG is 7lb better off this time around and should go close again. looks a tricky race but i’m going to stick with Coe who should relish the stamina test

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  #53

  Neil S
  December 28th, 2009 11:50

  Today’s meeting goes ahead, after 4 inspections. Hurrah!!!

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  #54

  crisp 73
  December 28th, 2009 13:22

  Correction to previous post, Comply Or Die- pulled up in Welsh National, so that’s 14/33,9/20 GN winners ran in Welsh Nat.

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  #55

  Showlad
  December 28th, 2009 13:57

  OK gonna call it.
  For me it’s Flintoff. With Coe, Hello Bud and GTL making up my 4 selections. Cornish great place value.

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  #56

  Matriarch
  December 28th, 2009 14:38

  Coe hit the last hard but DREAM ALLIANCE did the biz for me..I mentioned Dream Alliance about a page back and took the 33’s. This horse was runnin off 142 and was second to Denman when last on 142 and was 6lb well in today I think, ran really well and back to his best….33/1 for GN. Think Coe would’ve placed but smashed into last fence.

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  #57

  kj
  December 28th, 2009 14:47

  well done matriarch, I went for Coe but not your other top pick dream aLLiance, and it had the double letters latest mystery factor went for a bigger outsider in cornish seTT instead. What a comeback from injury, you really had some faith there, well done again!

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  #58

  crisp 73
  December 30th, 2009 17:20

  Well done all that backed Dream Alliance. Trends/stats that I used updated;
  15/16 won/placed at 25f or more in a C1 chase
  15/16 won 2 or more chases
  14/16 ran in less than 20 chases
  14/16 had a 50% or more win/place chase s/r
  14/16 had a 20% or more win chase s/r
  13/16 had won 1 of their last 6 chases
  (All exceptions had finished in the top4 in previous Welsh Nat except Miko De Beauchene who’d only won 1 chase but had only ran in 4)
  Dream Alliance ticked all the boxes and even had a 5th or better LTO, the fact it was in a hurdle race put me off! Didn’t think he’d had anything near the required preparation for such a gruelling race. Remarkable.

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  #59

  crisp 73
  December 31st, 2009 11:39

  Correction to previous post 11/12 won/placed at 25f or more C1 chase. Kendal Cavalier hadn’t but had won at 33f and had a win s/r, 31%, and win/place s/r, 62%.

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