Comments on: Grand National Prep Races 2010: The Kerry National

By: Neil

Neil — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:47:07 +0000

I thought that the summer national & Kerry National threads an excellent idea. Would love more threads on national trials and possibly other big races too.

By: Pablo

Pablo — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:12:25 +0000

I would welcome a “tips” section for National Hunt races where we might discuss other races within the same site – we are (mostly) all National nuts but most of us also love the other major jumps races too

By: TC

TC — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:33:58 +0000

admin
Really thinke you should expand this site and put up a cheltenham antepost page/site. This site clearly has some of the most knowledgable race followers and would love to hear everyone’s views. I have all the stats and trends available for all four days and already know that medermit has a huge chance in the Arkle

By: maureen

maureen — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:29:18 +0000

Thanks Neil; I thought he’d be @ 13 next year. Perhaps they are just going to aim him at the cross country races, which would make more sense, age wise. Interested to read the comment about Over the Creek on another thread; I’ve backed this horse before only to have him not run, but have always fancied him for the race, and no one better than the Pipes for bringing a horse back after a few problems.

By: Neil

Neil — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:41:34 +0000

Maureen, Silver Birch is twelve at this moment. Foaled on the 6 april 97. Next national would make him thirteen.

By: maureen

maureen — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:11:29 +0000

How old is Silver Birch now? I understand he’s running in the cross country race at Cheltenham next month. He was going so well when coming down in this years National, and still doesn’t have a lot of miles on the clock. Think Gordon Elliott is an amazing trainer.

By: Neil

Neil — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:06:44 +0000

Small correction to a note I made earlier the site is pedigreequiry.com not pedigreenquiry.com

By: Ben Aitken

Ben Aitken — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 15:36:25 +0000

Pablo

No surprise that Strong Gale is a negative sire for the national as he passes on a vast number of speed influences to his progeny, not ideal for the national obviously.
Presenting is a sire that is very much on the up at the moment. Any runner sired by Presenting should definitely be given at least a second look. Put simply, this stallion brings stamina to the table, primarily due to Busted being his grand-sire. I would not be discounting his runners at 4mile +, as you say I don’t think that many have tried. Off top of my head I know that Niche Market was 4th in the 4miler at 08 Cheltenham Festival and Out the Black was 3rd in this years Scottish national and 2nd in the 08 Summer national, both 4m 1/2f. His offspring are certainly bred to stay long distances.

By: Pablo

Pablo — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 14:37:17 +0000

Ben – do you have any views on Presenting as a sire?

Someone on here (I think that it was Maureen, apologies if not) suggested that Presenting has never sired a horse to have won over 4m+ (admittedly not that many races)

Also Strong Gale appears to have been a negative influence for GN runners (although a great sire at up to 3m 4f)

By: Pablo

Pablo — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 14:32:35 +0000

From 1999 onwards:

Sired by Roselier or Montelimar or with Busted influence on sire side, best RPR 144+, 3-6 runs in season from 1st September, 11′5 or lower, key race form, winner of Class 1 race and run within 50 days:

12 qualifiers – 6 winners, 1 placed, 3 unplaced, 2 failed to complete

Other sires and no Busted on sire side, best RPR 144+, 3-6 runs in season from 1st September, 11′5 or lower, key race form, winner of Class 1 race and run within 50 days:

34 qualifiers – 5 winners, 4 placed, 8 unplaced, 17 failed to complete