Becher Chase 2008: Trends and Form Analysis
The Becher Chase is obviously one of the most significant trials for the Grand National as it is run over 3m 2f at Aintree and, most importantly, over the National fences.
Previous Winners
Three Grand National winners have won this race: Earth Summit, Amberleigh House and Silver Birch, although none have won it in the season that they actually won the National.
Trends For Becher Chase
We can debate the effect this race will have on the Grand National after the race but what might actually win the Becher Chase? Are there any significant trends we can look at here?
Follow The Champion Trainer?
The most obvious thing from looking at the list of previous winners is that Paul Nicholls has won the race three times in the last four years and the only blip in that period was when Garvivonnian held off a determined late challenge from the Nicholls trained Le Duc by ¾ of a length. So it seems that the Champion Trainer has far more success in this race than in the main race over the National fences and with Mr Pointment and Gungadu entered this year he looks to have a strong hand yet again.
Age and Official Ratings Don’t Help Much
The usual areas of focus for narrowing contenders doesn’t offer much help here as there have been a wide variety of winners from different age and weight ranges. Official ratings have stretched from Ardent Scout at 117 to Earth Summit at 157 so that too is unlikely to help too much.
No doubt some will point to the fact that there has just been just one winner over the age of ten in the last ten years and so we might be pretty safe in leaving out the two runners aged twelve. However on closer inspection there have been 19 runners over ten years old in the last five years and four of those made the frame so disregarding the likes of Philson Run just on age grounds may not have that much creedance.
Jumping and a prominent style of running look the keys
I prefer the look of two stats relating to style of running and jumping ability.
I believe it is crucial to be up in the firing line for this race as the race tends to develop from the front and the majority of hold up horses find it difficult to get involved. Most of the last ten winners all have comments such as “chasing leaders” “led/disputed lead” “always prominent” “soon handy” and only Clan Royal and Amberleigh House have any mention of being “held up” and even Clan Royal was in front by the 9th fence. So, perhaps we should be on the lookout for horses who look more likely to race prominently and we should think twice about backing anything that appears to need holding up.
The second thing to consider is jumping ability. Perhaps this is stating the obvious over the National fences but none of the last ten winners of this race had fell or unseated more than twice at the point in their careers when they ran in this race (and most were 0 or 1 falls/unseats)
So applying the above principals we can (if we wish!) take out the following:
Held Up – Himalayan Trail
Too Many Falls/UR – Idle Talk
Too Many Falls/UR – Irish Raptor (I know he has a good record here but these are the stats)
Too Many Falls/UR – Oulart
Held Up – A New Story (not in last few, but was on last try in this race)
Held Up – Out The Black
Held Up – Philson Run (I know he has been placed round here but change of stables puts me off)
Too Many Falls/UR – Ivoire De Beaulieu (also the stable is right out of form – a worry for Noir Et Vert fans)
This cuts the field in half and with the previous very questionable form of Irish runners in the race (Only Garvivonnian being successful) you could take it further and leave the Irish raiders out as well but that looks a risky choice to me.
Early Feeling
As I mentioned earlier in the week I like the look of Southern Vic but he seems to be ridden with restraint in some of his races and that would be a major turn off if he was ridden like that in this race. Also, official ground of Good To Soft may not provide quite enough of a stamina test but now the runners are in and, I hope, we can narrow the field, its back to the form book!
Let us know your views and what your fancies are for this race and I will be adding more info tomorrow.






This post has 18 comments
#1
November 21st, 2008 18:12
I think I’ll be backing Gungadu in the Becher. In recent years Nicholls has dominated the race, and weight hasn’t been an issue.
Class can win in this race, as both Mr Pointement and Eurotrek have won with around top weight in the last 2 years.
Best of luck to everyone
#2
November 22nd, 2008 20:46
Nicholls horses off top weight seems quite a good trend. Gungadu and Mr P one two?
#3
November 22nd, 2008 20:58
Irish Raptor or Southern Vic for me..:-)
#4
November 22nd, 2008 22:17
Earth Summit won this off 157 AFTER winning the National, Gungadu runs here with top weight off a mark of 159!!!! – It will be some performance if he wins and Paul Nicholls has been banging on for ages about how badly handicapped this horse is now. I think he is probably right and whilst he is an admirable horse I couldn’t back him at the available odds.
The case for backing Mr Pointment is a bit more obvious. 7lb higher than winning this race last year he ran an eye catching race on his reappearance over hurdles at Chepstow but he did flop badly on his two outings over fences after his win here. The massive plus points with the Nicholls’ horses is that the trainer will be trying 100% and he has such a brilliant record in the race. I just wonder if some of the other trainers will want to hinder their National chances by winning this race?
For example, Peter Bowen runs Always Waining off a mark of 147 – if this horse were to win he would probably go up 8 or 9 lbs and effectively take himself out of the Grand National reckoning? Bowen gave McKelvey a look round in this race to finish 6th in 2006 only to come back and get beat by a narrow margin in the National itself. Experience of the fences was more important than being ultra competitive in the Becher Chase and we must wonder if horses such as Himalayan Trail, Black Apalachi, Southern Vic and Noir Et Vert are being prepared with April in mind first and foremost?
With that in mind I’m going to go against the trends I put up yesterday and go for Irish Raptor to supplement my earlier bet on Southern Vic. Whilst I have concerns about the amount of times Irish Raptor has gotten rid of his jockey overall his record over the National fences is good and his performance behind Gwanako last year had lots to recommend it. And, very importantly, his trainer has been very public about his desire to win this race. He looks a decent each-way bet and worth a play on the Ante Post markets for the National with a view to perhaps trading should he run well tomorrow.
#5
November 23rd, 2008 00:27
I fancy idle talk,unexposed and not listed anywhere apart from betfair for the national,i reckon he’s a fine each way bet.
#6
November 23rd, 2008 13:17
What what its worth here are my two (based on trends for last 5 years)against the field (a hard race to predict on trends):
1. Always Waining
2. Gungadu
Reserve: 3. Himalayan Trail
- is also a possible but the problem is that as Admin says some of these runners wil lose their good OR rating for the GN if they win or come 2nd.
Good luck everyone
#7
November 23rd, 2008 16:49
hello everyone, happy hunting! wasn’t that exciting
hard to pick the winner but i did!…just!
nearly went for idle talk, then new story, southern vic, then oulart, then mr.pointment.
Then with the final shower (seconds to go!)I thought how I considered this point to point/ Be my native horse for the national last year hooray! some pocket money..got excited and backed him @33′s (lucky number) for the national itself, just hoping (possibly beyond hope) he doesn’t get too much weight.
#8
November 23rd, 2008 17:11
Howdi folks – i had a good look at black apps form last night and i bet him at 110s on betfair for the nat !…. nice – however like kj id be really worried the hadicapper will got to town with him after that
#9
November 23rd, 2008 17:19
i reckon the 1 of interest from all of that is himalayan trail – finished in 5th and will be dropped a few pounds down to a nice mark..worth keeping an eye on
#10
November 23rd, 2008 21:38
With the ground Heavy I did not bet I’am pleased to say – so hard to predict (Racing Post forcast in the mornig was G/St))
#11
November 24th, 2008 21:40
I agree nice trial for the trail, stealthy.
winners of the becher don’t have a great winning record for the main event, schooling around this course is a much better stat.
black apps and himy trail prob need more chase wins over longer distances too maybe, but they are going in the right direction.
I liked the look of joe lively couple of weeks ago, but with such good cheltenham form may have to discount him. Still looking an interesting line up now, going to hold off til the weights are declared, while you guys teach me a thing or two about how to get the most out of my bets!!! 110s on betfair I am such a novice
#12
November 24th, 2008 21:52
Hi kj -good luck …still think theres some value to be had at the bigger prices on betfair …so if u have any lively outsiders its worth lumping on , even if its only for a few quid here and there .. good luck anyway and keep those thoughts comin…only another 4 and a half months to go
#13
November 25th, 2008 02:12
I’ve watched the race a few times now and I’m not sure how much bearing it will have on the Grand National. The going dictated a completely different pace than these horses can expect on good ground in April. Case in point is the winner, Black Apalachi. Assistant trainer Richard Hughes suggested that they were going so quick in the National last year that the horse got taken off its feet and ended up on the deck after the 2nd fence. I can’t imagine that going up to 147 or 148 after this win will help with his ability to deal with the conditions in the National itself. It was an impressive display on Sunday but I’d have to have reservations about him winning a National.
As for Mr Pointment, surely he has no chance of staying 4 1/2 miles? His stamina appeared to give out last year in the National and he put in a performance on Sunday which seemed to suggest that he certainly wouldn’t have been keen to go any further. I wouldn’t entertain the idea of running him in it again if I was lucky to own a horse that talented – surely there are plenty of other good races to focus on for him?
Oulart ran well for a horse who wouldn’t like the conditions and he looks the sort who could come back for the National.
Gungadu looks like a horse with too much on at the weights at the moment and Idle Talk and Irish Raptor (grrrr!) looked like non-stayers in the conditions.
I will have to reserve judgement on Himalayan Trail. I was quite keen on him last year but I can’t understand why his connections would sell him unless they got made a huge offer. If he was sold at a public sale and someone saw the sale price, I’d be interested to know as that will give some indication (to me anyway) how much of a long term chance he really has.
I also can’t make my mind up about Southern Vic. My head says he was beat at the time of his fall but my pride wants to believe he would have got a place at least.
It was great to see some good horses over the big fences and really whetted the appetite for the next few months.
#14
November 25th, 2008 19:32
excellent summary admin .. i reckon aintree in april will draw upon a different set of skills and requirements,such as the ability to travel well asnd jump at a much higher speed on probably much faster ground . as denis oregan said , “it was like a days hunting” i reckon the stakes will be raised to a higher level come april . nevertheless take nothing away from black app – he fully deserved his win although i think the hadicapper could pull the curtain down on his aintree dreams for 2009 . roll on the hennessy . some interesting candidates for the nat lurking at the bottom of the weights..
#15
November 25th, 2008 19:52
southern vics now trading on betfair for any interested parties
#16
November 26th, 2008 20:49
One think we do need for the winner of the GN and that is a horse who has SPEED (unless the ground rides Heavy a plodder cannot win the GN – only a horse with speed and class)and class with the right weight.
The Becher Chase added no new information but the Henessy is a different class with plenty of horses with speed. A placed horse in the Hennessy either this year or last with many of the other key trends is always worth looking at.
I still think thre is one outstading horse for the 2009 GN worth an early big bet (mines on)but as soon as you post the name the odds go way down (well they did in 2008) so for the moment I shall sit on the name for a little longer. But, hey what do I know – I got both the Scots Nat and Becher Chase wrong!
#17
December 2nd, 2008 12:11
Systemsman
Whilst I value your work very highly, I dont think this blog has quite enough coverage to effect the prices of horses for the GN!!! Not this early anyway!
Its more likely that other people realised the same thing as you did.
And if your bet is on, tell us!
#18
December 3rd, 2008 20:44
Daniel
Soon, very soon but I want to put a little more on first – I cant afford to do it quite all in one go as there will be many others to cover yet. The bookies watch everything and my own money affected the price of one of two last year so I’am taking no chances this year until I’m ready.