Comments on: Grand National Form: Comply Or Die http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/ The Story of the 2009 Grand National Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:31:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: NilDesperandum http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-595 NilDesperandum Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:21:27 +0000 http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-595 Yes, it did seem quite careless to leave up the National betting whilst the Eider was being run..although maybe Ladbrokes saw the Eider - National stats and weren't bothered :-) Yes, it did seem quite careless to leave up the National betting whilst the Eider was being run..although maybe Ladbrokes saw the Eider - National stats and weren’t bothered :-)

]]> By: admin http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-542 admin Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:17:38 +0000 http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-542 Well done Nil. 4os is a great price and always good to hear about people getting the value! Sounds like someone at Ladbrokes HQ made a rick there! Well done Nil. 4os is a great price and always good to hear about people getting the value! Sounds like someone at Ladbrokes HQ made a rick there!

]]> By: NilDesperandum http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-531 NilDesperandum Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:30:12 +0000 http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-531 My namesake would have reversed the Eider trend were it not for his tragic death..I'm on Comply or Die at 40s..backed it as he jumped the last in the Eider..was very (pleasantly) surprised Ladbrokes left the market up..must have got on just in time..I hope he runs well My namesake would have reversed the Eider trend were it not for his tragic death..I’m on Comply or Die at 40s..backed it as he jumped the last in the Eider..was very (pleasantly) surprised Ladbrokes left the market up..must have got on just in time..I hope he runs well

]]> By: Brody http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-459 Brody Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:46:17 +0000 http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-459 I've got a small E/W investment on COD at 25's think at that price he is a worthy bet to be in the frame come the shake up. Despite Eider winners having a poor win record Philson proven last year they can definitely make the frame. Unfortunately 12's paying 3-1 is not a good EW price so I definitely will not be having anymore invest in this horse at the offered price. I’ve got a small E/W investment on COD at 25’s think at that price he is a worthy bet to be in the frame come the shake up. Despite Eider winners having a poor win record Philson proven last year they can definitely make the frame. Unfortunately 12’s paying 3-1 is not a good EW price so I definitely will not be having anymore invest in this horse at the offered price.

]]> By: Miinnehoma http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-452 Miinnehoma Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:46:22 +0000 http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-452 Your analysis of Comply Or Die is spot on. I have had the exact same thoughts for some time. Although 3/17 National winners were off the track up to 14 months at some stage before winning, I think C.O.D. 22 months off and his first 2 runs this season 0. and P. are a big worry. He did PU. in the Scottish National when 4/1 fav. and also in the Welsh - not sure if he was injured in this race. Any of the last 17 National winners that ran in the Welsh National finished 1st., 2nd. or 3rd. The other problem is the Eider - shocking record. Other than that he is a good bet. Your analysis of Comply Or Die is spot on. I have had the exact same thoughts for some time.
Although 3/17 National winners were off the track up to 14 months at some stage before winning, I think C.O.D. 22 months off and his first 2 runs this season 0. and P. are a big worry. He did PU. in the Scottish National when 4/1 fav. and also in the Welsh - not sure if he was injured in this race. Any of the last 17 National winners that ran in the Welsh National finished 1st., 2nd. or 3rd. The other problem is the Eider - shocking record. Other than that he is a good bet.

]]> By: Systems Man http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-450 Systems Man Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:09:44 +0000 http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-450 Well i was on at 25/1 and advised others to get on at that price. I seee no problrm with 14/1 if you can find any(!) if he drops to 7/1 or 8/1 before the off (I think we would all be happy to have a 14/1 winner on a normal Saturday!. I predict he will be 10/1 or under on the day. Well i was on at 25/1 and advised others to get on at that price.

I seee no problrm with 14/1 if you can find any(!) if he drops to 7/1 or 8/1 before the off (I think we would all be happy to have a 14/1 winner on a normal Saturday!. I predict he will be 10/1 or under on the day.

]]> By: admin http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-449 admin Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:19:15 +0000 http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-449 Hi Stephen, Yes, 25's is a great price - if you want to lay a bit off, let me know!!!! But seriously, good luck to all who have got the value on COD and Cloudy Lane (more on him later in the week!) - building a good set of ante-post wagers is a great tactic and is perhaps something we can look at in greater detail for 2009 - how many horses should we try and get on our side, what sort of price range, staking plans, when to invest and when to wait etc etc. Keep the ideas flowing! Hi Stephen,

Yes, 25’s is a great price - if you want to lay a bit off, let me know!!!!
But seriously, good luck to all who have got the value on COD and Cloudy Lane (more on him later in the week!) - building a good set of ante-post wagers is a great tactic and is perhaps something we can look at in greater detail for 2009 - how many horses should we try and get on our side, what sort of price range, staking plans, when to invest and when to wait etc etc. Keep the ideas flowing!

]]> By: Stephen http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-448 Stephen Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:04:57 +0000 http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-448 I respect your views totally admin and you are probably correct in saying that at his current price he looks unbackable. I am happy I got on at 25's back in February before the price crumbled to what it is today. Having said all of that both he and Cloudy Lane represent the best bets based on a handicap point of view due to their current marks being much higher. They are both going to give anyone that backs them a real run for their money come April 5th. I respect your views totally admin and you are probably correct in saying that at his current price he looks unbackable.

I am happy I got on at 25’s back in February before the price crumbled to what it is today.

Having said all of that both he and Cloudy Lane represent the best bets based on a handicap point of view due to their current marks being much higher. They are both going to give anyone that backs them a real run for their money come April 5th.

]]> By: admin http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-447 admin Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:58:32 +0000 http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-447 Hi Silver Birch, Thanks for your positve comments re the above post from the big trends thread. I will try and look at the horses you have mentioned that have received lots of comments on that thread i.e. D'Argent, Point Barrow and Cloudy Lane and look forward to having a space where we can discuss each horse. Hi Silver Birch,

Thanks for your positve comments re the above post from the big trends thread.
I will try and look at the horses you have mentioned that have received lots of comments on that thread i.e. D’Argent, Point Barrow and Cloudy Lane and look forward to having a space where we can discuss each horse.

]]> By: admin http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-445 admin Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:53:33 +0000 http://blog.grand-national-guide.co.uk/grand-national-2008/grand-national-form-comply-or-die/#comment-445 Hi Stephen, Thanks very much for the reply. Yes, of course, all of the things you mention are huge positives but, for me, the value has gone and I am concerned about a fragile horse handling two four mile races within the space of two months. He does have to be hugely respected but whilst I love trends and stats as much as anyone, I think we have to make sure we look through the boxes that have been ticked and ensure that the horse warrants a bet based on price and form. For me, at the odds available, he doesn't. Hi Stephen,

Thanks very much for the reply.

Yes, of course, all of the things you mention are huge positives but, for me, the value has gone and I am concerned about a fragile horse handling two four mile races within the space of two months.
He does have to be hugely respected but whilst I love trends and stats as much as anyone, I think we have to make sure we look through the boxes that have been ticked and ensure that the horse warrants a bet based on price and form.
For me, at the odds available, he doesn’t.

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